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    <title>Boxes and Arrows: Comments by Trevor North</title>
    <link>http://www.boxesandarrows.com/person/1211</link>
    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:53:04 GMT</pubDate>
    <description>Comments by Trevor North</description>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;Tried to create an auto sitemap using the above Visio 2003 method but came across a couple of issues.  Firstly, had the same problem of needing more than 3 levels and wasnt able to find the Macro version of the spreadsheet mentioned above anywhere &amp;#8211; also wasnt able to change the calculation sheet to do what we needed.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Perhaps you could email the version with Macros and maybe put it online with a link on this article.  Doesnt appear to be on the iatools website mentioned in the comments either.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Secondly, we had some duplicate names in the site map but the orgchart wizard doesnt allow duplicates.  We figured we would cure this by including hierarchical numbering, e.g. 1.0, 2.0 for top level, 1.1, 2.1, 2.2  for second level and so on.  Problem is, Visio doesnt perform any ordering on them so we would have to still jiggle them around manually.  Any ideas how to get it to auto number in the Excel Output sheet (we did it by hand) or generate the number within Visio and how to get visio to order the orgchart by these numbers for children under the same parent ? Are there any additional headings that can be put in the Excel file besides the five shown (Reports_to, Name, Title, Department, Telephone) that can be used to achieve an ordered output ?&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;TIA&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Trev&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <link>http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/the_lazy_ia_s_guide_to_making_sitemaps#content_3322</link>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:53:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>Trevor North</author>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;Tried to create an auto sitemap using the above Visio 2003 method but came across a couple of issues.  Firstly, had the same problem of needing more than 3 levels and wasnt able to find the Macro version of the spreadsheet mentioned above anywhere &amp;#8211; also wasnt able to change the calculation sheet to do what we needed.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Perhaps you could email the version with Macros and maybe put it online with a link on this article.  Doesnt appear to be on the iatools website mentioned in the comments either.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Secondly, we had some duplicate names in the site map but the orgchart wizard doesnt allow duplicates.  We figured we would cure this by including hierarchical numbering, e.g. 1.0, 2.0 for top level, 1.1, 2.1, 2.2  for second level and so on.  Problem is, Visio doesnt perform any ordering on them so we would have to still jiggle them around manually.  Any ideas how to get it to auto number in the Excel Output sheet (we did it by hand) or generate the number within Visio and how to get visio to order the orgchart by these numbers for children under the same parent ? Are there any additional headings that can be put in the Excel file besides the five shown (Reports_to, Name, Title, Department, Telephone) that can be used to achieve an ordered output ?&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;TIA&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Trev&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <link>http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/the_lazy_ia_s_guide_to_making_sitemaps#content_3323</link>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:53:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>Trevor North</author>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;So what features do the Information Architects that read these postswant from a standalone application that would create sitemap deliverables ?&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Want to be able to suck in a website and drag &amp;#38; drop edit it ? Want to start with a blank canvas on the homepage and expand down and across the various levels in a &lt;span class="caps"&gt;GUI&lt;/span&gt; environment ? Want output in &lt;span class="caps"&gt;PDF&lt;/span&gt;, Word, Excel formats ?&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Please expand on what you think the ultimate sitemap tool should offer in terms of features &amp;#8211; be as specific or as general as you want.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <link>http://www.boxesandarrows.com/idea/view/3324#content_3325</link>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:53:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>Trevor North</author>
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